Why the 'Summer House' scandal blew up, and more | Engagement Party

The racially charged love triangle drama on the long-running reality series "Summer House" has echoed far beyond the Bravo-verse, and Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro are unpacking why Ciara's responses have gone so viral. Plus, Andrew Lloyd Webber of "Phantom of the Opera" and "Sunset Boulevard" fame joins to talk "Cats," sobriety, and letting go of creative control. Kara Swisher wonders why Pete Hegseth is pirouetting across her socials.

About the show: Welcome to Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro's Engagement Party, where the hot takes are the smart takes. ​After years of working side by side, Audie and Ari have made it official with their pop culture video podcast. Party hopping between what you're watching, reading and scrolling, these longtime friends unpack what matters in our endless feeds.

00:00 The "Summer House" scandal is everywhere. Why? 3:09 Racial tropes in reality TV and how "Summer House" has subverted them 6:64 Reality TV's ability to move the conversation around marginalized groups (s/o to "The Real World") 9:02 Also, fighting over a trifling man is a tale as old as time. Example: Shakespeare 11:13 What the true crime obsession has to do with the "Summer House" scandal 12:26 It's Andrew Lloyd Webber! Why is he having such a moment? 24:10 Was "Cats" always seen as queer art? 25:34 What Andrew Lloyd Webber and Nicolas Cage have in common (besides epic eyebrows) 27:24 Kara Swisher wants to know why Pete Hegseth is doing calisthenics all over her feeds 32:36 Touch Grass: An old-school field trip and a great read about how companies like Costco can avoid going bad

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